that the people can look at a budget, let's say and say here is the federal budget and, by the way, a lot of you viewers you care about social security, you want social security there. you want medicare there, but we're going to have to do something on entitlements if we're going to actually fix the problem. >> bill: okay, but in talking more like a professor than. >> no, but what i'm saying is that's an example of just the facts without the spin, i think, is something that would be good for everybody. >> bill: i think hard news guy does that but opinion makers. >> opinion makers is where i think a lot of the viewership gravitates. >> bill: absolutely. do you think you are being treated by fox news now? >> i would say that the news guys i think try to do a good job, although, look, let's face it, fox news, i think, has a point of view. there is nothing wrong with that. there is a strong history in america of all news having some form of point of view.